Americans say they trust Trump more than DeSantis

March 6, 2023

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A Tale of Two Republican Leaders

Early YouGov polling of all Americans shows they see the two prospective GOP challengers, Donald Trump and Ron DeSantis, very differently. By a greater than two-to-one margin, Americans say they trust Trump more than DeSantis to handle the economy, taxes and government spending, foreign policy, and immigration. Americans trust DeSantis more to handle education and covid-19. Trump is unsurprisingly a more polarizing figure than DeSantis, and more Americans have a defined opinion of the former president. The public largely sees Trump as more authentic, patriotic, and decisive, but sees DeSantis as more conservative, more “willing to compromise” and more “loyal to the GOP”. Trump may not be a political newcomer anymore, but he is still viewed as a principled outsider by the American public with more patriotism than party-allegiance which could work to his advantage.

After New START suspension, what is the fallout from ending nuclear arms reduction treaties? Just MADness.

In Aug. 2022, after requests from the U.S. State Department to resume nuclear strategic arms inspections in June 2022 under the terms of the 2010 New Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty (START)—inspections were mutually suspended in March 2020 as a result of the Covid pandemic, according to the U.S. State Department—Russia announced that it would not allow for on-site inspections. Then, on Feb. 21, 2023, Russian President Vladimir Putin confirmed that Moscow was suspending the treaty. Without mutual talks by nuclear powers currently either on limiting or restricting arms, the only other agreement that might matter is that of mutually assured destruction (MAD), the idea that all sides believe a nuclear war cannot be won by either side because of the potential existential consequences for humanity itself. But do both sides still believe that?

A Tale of Two Republican Leaders

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By Rick Manning

With former President Trump gearing up for another presidential run in 2024 and rumors flying about Florida Governor Ron DeSantis spinning up a campaign of his own, it’s anyone’s guess how the next presidential election is going to play out.  

Early YouGov polling of all Americans shows they see the two prospective GOP challengers very differently. By a greater than two-to-one margin, Americans say they trust Trump more than DeSantis to handle the economy, taxes and government spending, foreign policy, and immigration. Americans trust DeSantis more to handle education and covid-19.

Trump is unsurprisingly a more polarizing figure than DeSantis, and more Americans have a defined opinion of the former president. The public largely sees Trump as more authentic, patriotic, and decisive, but sees DeSantis as more conservative, more “willing to compromise” and more “loyal to the GOP”.

Trump may not be a political newcomer anymore, but he is still viewed as a principled outsider by the American public with more patriotism than party-allegiance which could work to his advantage.

The surveys show only 5% of Americans aren’t sure how they feel about Trump, while nearly a quarter aren’t sure how they feel about DeSantis. Americans are exactly split on whether they view Trump favorably or unfavorably, with 46% saying they have a somewhat or very favorable view of Trump and 46% saying they have a somewhat or very unfavorable view. Just 7% don’t know how they feel. Slightly less Americans say they have a somewhat or very favorable view of DeSantis (40%), and 36% say they have a somewhat or very unfavorable view of him. Twenty-three percent of Americans don’t know how they feel about DeSantis yet, which could work to DeSantis’ benefit and allow him to define himself to undecideds. 

Younger voters largely prefer Trump to DeSantis, while older voters favor DeSantis. Over half of voters eighteen to twenty-nine (51%) have a very or somewhat favorable view of Trump, while just 43% have a very or somewhat favorable view of DeSantis. Voters over 65 are the opposite, with 37% saying they have a very or somewhat favorable view of Trump while 42% say they have a favorable view of DeSantis.

When asked to rate Trump compared to DeSantis on a number of characteristics, voters say Trump is more authentic (18% to 16%), charismatic (24% to 16%), decisive (20% to 16%), and patriotic (19% to 12%). However, voters say DeSantis is more conservative (21% to 14%), “Loyal to the Republican party” (20% to 16%), and “willing to compromise” (18% to 12%).    

Voters under 65 rank Trump higher on authenticity than DeSantis, but voters over 65 rank DeSantis higher. One of the largest discrepancies is on the issue of perceived intelligence. Americans say 20% to 17% DeSantis is more intelligent than Trump, but voters under 25 disagree, and say Trump is more intelligent than DeSantis. Voters over 65 say DeSantis is more intelligent by an over two-to-one margin.

Trump is the more popular choice among Republicans and Republican-leaners, with 47% saying they would choose Trump over DeSantis (36%) in a head-to-head matchup. 

Interestingly, voters seem perfectly at ease with Trump’s criticism of DeSantis, with 46% saying Trump’s criticism is fair and 22% saying it is unfair.

While it is still early and public perception can change, it’s worth looking at the way Trump and DeSantis are viewed by the public, and it is hard to miss the glaring differences. On average, voters still see Trump as the political outsider who is brash, genuine, and willing to upset the globalist order and his own party if it means putting the American people first. DeSantis is already viewed as a torch bearer for the status quo and a loyalist to the GOP.

If these broad caricatures sound like a re-run of the 2016 GOP primaries when establishment GOP pick Jeb Bush and conservative darling Ted Cruz were eventually outpaced by Donald Trump, the next election could be interesting indeed.

Rick Manning is the President of Americans for Limited Government.

To view online: https://dailytorch.com/2023/03/a-tale-of-two-republican-leaders/

 

After New START suspension, what is the fallout from ending nuclear arms reduction treaties? Just MADness.

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By Robert Romano

In Aug. 2022, after requests from the U.S. State Department to resume nuclear strategic arms inspections in June 2022 under the terms of the 2010 New Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty (START)—inspections were mutually suspended in March 2020 as a result of the Covid pandemic, according to the U.S. State Department—Russia announced that it would not allow for on-site inspections.

According to a Jan. 2023 report by the State Department, “Report to Congress on Implementation of the New START Treaty,” the pause had been ongoing: “Beginning in March 2020, the United States and the Russian Federation coordinated a mutual and voluntary pause of inspection activities under the New START Treaty due to the COVID-19 pandemic…”

Since that time, no reported inspections have occurred, which were a regular feature of both New START and the original 1991 START treaty. It’s been three years now.

In 2021, the U.S. attempted to engage in talks to resume compliance with the treaty, according to the State Department report: “In June 2021, the United States initiated correspondence in an attempt to reach a mutual understanding on the resumption of inspection activities. Since that time and despite two in-person bilateral meetings, numerous calls, and an extensive exchange of papers, Russia has only increased the number of its ostensible COVID-19 requirements and additional preconditions it claimed to require before assenting to the resumption of inspection activities. In June 2022, the United States, judging that the remaining issues related to the resumption of inspection activities were manageable under the terms of the Treaty, chose not to continue the mutual pause. The Russian side took no action to propose extending the pause in inspection activities before it lapsed. On August 8, 2022, the United States transmitted to Russia a treaty notification of intent to conduct an inspection. On August 9, 2022, Russia responded by ‘temporarily exempting’ from inspection activities all of its facilities that are subject to New START Treaty inspection activities…”

But Russia would not allow inspections to resume, per State: “In August 2022, Russia invoked the provision to purportedly exempt all of its treaty facilities from inspection activities and refused a duly notified U.S. inspection on this basis. Russia’s purported exemption of all of its treaty facilities from inspection activities remained in place as of the end of 2022.”

Then, on Feb. 21, 2023, Russian President Vladimir Putin confirmed that Moscow was suspending the treaty and that inspections would not start again anytime soon, calling for the treaty to take into account NATO’s strategic arms in addition to the United States’, stating, “They want to inflict a strategic defeat on us and climb on our nuclear facilities. In this regard, I am compelled to announce today that Russia is suspending its participation in the Strategic Offensive Arms Treaty. I repeat, it does not withdraw from the Treaty, no, it suspends its participation. But before returning to the discussion of this issue, we must understand for ourselves what such countries of the North Atlantic Alliance as France and Great Britain still claim, and how we will take into account their strategic arsenals, that is, the alliance’s combined strike potential.”

In addition, on Feb. 28, Putin signed a law suspending the treaty claiming “the United States has intentionally failed to perform its inspection-related obligations under the Treaty.”

Putin’s suspension of New START, particularly his calls for wider participation by NATO, appeared to reciprocally mirror U.S. objections and ultimate withdrawal by former President Donald Trump in Feb. 2019 from the now dead 1987 Intermediate Nuclear Forces (INF) Treaty, which banned all nuclear weapons with ranges from 310 and 3,420 miles.

Both the U.S. and Russia had said each side is in violation of the treaty with the development of ground-based missile systems banned by the treaty, but the U.S. had also cited the lack of participation by nuclear powers like China in the defunct agreement as a reason for leaving.

Following the 2002 withdrawal of the U.S. from the 1972 Antiballistic Missile (ABM) Treaty, and the expiration of the Strategic Arms Limitation Treaties in 1985, all of the work towards halting the nuclear arms race — a process which began after the 1962 Cuban Missile Crisis, the first time offensive nuclear weapons were removed by the superpowers from Cuba and Turkey — has effectively ended.

One odd twist was in the 1986 Reykjavik meeting between Ronald Reagan and Mikhail Gorbachev, where the two were negotiating what turned into the 1987 INF Treaty, where there was a mutual verbal agreement to eliminate all nuclear weapons—but the agreement fell apart due to continued differences on missile defense and the adherence to the 1972 ABM Treaty. That might have been the last, best chance for a major breakthrough.

So, we went from a near exchange of nuclear weapons in the 1960s, followed by the first ever strategic withdrawal of such arms, to arms limitation agreements in the 1970s to slow down the nuclear arms race, to nuclear arms prohibitions and reductions beginning in the 1980s through 2020.

Besides the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT), there are not very many other agreements that currently have mutual participation by nuclear powers. We are more or less back where we started before 1962.

Given the history and experience with near misses in the nuclear era, Presidents including Harry TrumanDwight EisenhowerJohn KennedyLyndon JohnsonRichard NixonJimmy CarterRonald Reagan, George H.W. BushBill ClintonGeorge W. BushBarack ObamaDonald Trump and now Joe Biden have all occasionally spoken about the prospects of nuclear war when they needed to, including frequently invoking the term “Armageddon” itself.

Harry Truman in his Farewell Address in 1953 said, “Starting an atomic war is totally unthinkable for rational men.”

Dwight Eisenhower in 1953 called for a turn away from the militarization of nuclear capabilities and introduced the “language of atomic warfare”: “I feel impelled to speak today in a language that in a sense is new, one which I, who have spent so much of my life in the military profession, would have preferred never to use. That new language is the language of atomic warfare… In this quest, I know that we must not lack patience. I know that in a world divided, such as ours today, salvation cannot be attained by one dramatic act. I know that many steps will have to be taken over many months before the world can look at itself one day and truly realize that a new climate of mutually peaceful confidence is abroad in the world. But I know, above all else, that we must start to take these steps—now. The United States would seek more than a mere reduction or elimination of atomic materials for military purposes. It is not enough to take this weapon out of the hands of the soldiers. It must be put into the hands of those who will know how to strip its military casing and adapt it to the arts of peace. The United States knows that if the fearful trend of atomic military build-up can be reversed, this greatest of destructive forces can be developed into a great boon, for the benefit of all mankind.”

In 1960, then-Vice President Nixon—who would eventually sign the first Strategic Arms Limitations Treaty (SALT) and the Anti-ballistic Missile Treaty in 1972 (ABM)—on the campaign trail against Kennedy, described the careful language presidents must use when discussing this topic in order to avert war, and spoke of winning the Cold War “without war,” stating, “I am convinced that we do have the strength, and we will develop more, to win this struggle and win it without war. But it is going to take leadership. It is going to take leadership which will be calm in the time of crisis, leadership which will be firm, but leadership which will not be belligerent. Because never must we indulge in the war of words which might heat up the international atmosphere to the point that a nuclear catastrophe would come to the whole world.” Here, Nixon was sagely advising for presidents not to get baited into verbal escalations.

In 1983, Reagan in an interview stated a nuclear war must never occur and called for reciprocal arms reductions by the U.S. and the Soviet Union: “there must not be a nuclear war, then maybe the people will understand why we’re trying so desperately to get a reduction in those weapons worldwide. And I hope that if we start down the reduction road that the other side will see the common sense in eliminating them totally.

In 1984, in a debate with Democratic presidential nominee Walter Mondale, Reagan declared, “A nuclear war cannot be won and must never be fought.”

More recently, President Joe Biden, too, has warned of the potential consequences of a nuclear exchange.

On March 11, 2022, in the early days of the war, President Joe Biden told members of the House Democratic Caucus that the U.S. would not be going to war any time soon. Biden ruled out the possibility of sending offensive equipment and tanks, stating, “the idea that we’re going to send in offensive equipment and have planes and tanks and trains with American pilots and American crews just understand no matter what you say, that is called World War III.”

On Oct. 6, 2022 at a Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee fundraiser, he said, “We have not faced the prospect of Armageddon since Kennedy and the Cuban Missile Crisis.  We’ve got a guy I know fairly well; his name is Vladimir Putin.  I spent a fair amount of time with him.  He is not joking when he talks about the potential use of tactical and nuclear weapons…”

Opponents of the arms control treaties such as former National Security Advisor John Bolton who called them “sacred scrolls” and “dangerous relics” arguing they made us less safe — even though they never resulted in nuclear war — have gotten what they wanted. Now what?

Murphy’s Law dictates whatever can go wrong eventually will go wrong. Without mutual talks by nuclear powers currently either on limiting or restricting arms, the only other agreement that might matter is that of mutually assured destruction (MAD), the idea that all sides believe a nuclear war cannot be won by either side because of the potential existential consequences for humanity itself. So, besides treaties and diplomacy, the only other thing preventing a nuclear holocaust is the idea that such a struggle would be pure madness. But is that enough, do world leaders still agree with that and if so, how do we verify that?

Robert Romano is the Vice President of Public Policy at Americans for Limited Government Foundation.

To view online: https://dailytorch.com/2023/03/after-new-start-suspension-what-is-the-fallout-from-ending-nuclear-arms-reduction-treaties-just-madness/

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