We live in an age that disparages the idea of nationhood and national identity as merely a step towards nationalism and violence. Our society's elites uphold the global and the international without regard for people, history, culture, or place. In this latest episode of Defining Conservatism, Richard Reinsch interviews University of Dallas professor Susan Hanssen on why justice requires love of nation and why this patriotism is distinct from the nationalism so frequently referenced. Enjoy!