[We need to think in multiple dimensions to understand why certain
things happen, or don’t happen. We are fighting people who break
norms, rules and laws. They are willing to lie, cheat, steal, threaten
to destroy others and our entire system to win.]
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THE DELETED TEXTS STORY EXPOSES COUP PLOTTERS IN THE DOD  
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Heather Digby Parton
August 3, 2022
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_ We need to think in multiple dimensions to understand why certain
things happen, or don’t happen. We are fighting people who break
norms, rules and laws. They are willing to lie, cheat, steal, threaten
to destroy others and our entire system to win. _

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I think the J6 committee already knows the contents of the missing
texts from the Secret Service, DHS and now the DoD. Texts of top
Trump officials in the Department of Defense wiped.
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“missing texts” investigation is designed to reveal people
involved in the cover up. It’s a setup to implicate Trumpers
embedded in government. And it’s working, it’s already exposed
actions and non-actions taken by Trump appointed Inspector General
Joseph Cuffari. Monday, Reps. Bennie Thompson and Carolyn Maloney said
they also have new evidence the inspector general’s office stopped
trying to recover the missing records over a year ago. Link
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“But Spocko,” you ask, “if the committee has copies of the
texts, why didn’t they reveal them?” There are a couple of
reasons. Not revealing the content now is giving the committee the
opportunity to get more people in to “refresh their memory” and
cut deals. They have said this explicitly.

The BS reasons given that the texts are missing are BS. However, they
are used to give some people an out if they come forward with more
information. (Remember, the J6 committee wants the information, not
necessarily to prosecute everyone for all their crimes. That’s the
DoJ’s job.)

Put yourself in the shoes of someone who KNOWS what’s in the texts
AND KNOWS that the reasons given they disappeared are BS. The
committee is giving people an _excuse _to come forward now and cut a
deal. They are SAYING the texts were deleted and missing. They are NOT
saying there is no way to ever know what is in those texts. They are
expecting people to come forward and say things like “I deleted the
texts, but _now _I remember who told me to.” Or “I really DID
send most of them in, but I didn’t send in the encrypted ones on my
personal phone. Here they are now.”

Some will keep stonewalling right up until they are presented with
copies of their texts. Then they will start with disputing the
content, “Fake evidence!” or “You have to prove intent!!!” Or,
“I was just following procedure and orders of the head of the
protection detail.” Or “Where is your chain of custody for this
text, it’s inadmissible in court!” Or, when they really get it,
“I plead the 5th.”

I talked to Matt Binder on his podcast Doomed last night. (Link. I
start at 1:46. [[link removed]]) I asked if he
believed the texts were really deleted. He thought they were because
of who was doing this and their technical sophistication. I laughed, I
shouldn’t have, because he’s correct. The Secret Service DOES have
that level of technical sophistication. What I was laughing about was
how often people only look in their area of expertise and don’t
consider others. *I’m guilty of the same bias. I know about
the TECHNICAL reasons it’s hard to delete texts everywhere AND I
pointed out that other agencies, like the NSA, probably have copies.
But then Glenn Kirschner pointed out I didn’t even need to go that
far!

COOPERATING WITNESSES HAVE TESTIFIED UNDER OATH ABOUT THEIR TEXTS

The J6 committee has interviewed over 1,000 witnesses–for over a
year. MOST OF THEM COOPERATED. COOPERATING WITNESSES TURN OVER TEXTS,
FROM THEIR PRIVATE PHONES AND MESSAGES SENT ON ENCRYPTED SERVICES.

Those who don’t take the deal to provide information will be sent to
the DOJ, where they might cut deals to avoid prosecution there.
Some WILL be charged with obstructing justice, others will have the
charges dropped if they cooperate.

Jill-Wine Banks has pointed out that the J6 hearings are a public
education process. Things happen in order for a reason. If the
committee had just revealed the crimes shown in the texts, everyone
would be focusing on that crime. Now we can add OBSTRUCTION OF
JUSTICE to the sedition crimes. Thee public is learning about other
people involved in ordering phones wiped, or the people who decided
not to investigate wiped phones. Nobody knew the name of Tony Ornato
or Inspector General Cuffari until recently. Cuffari might not have
been in ANY planning or received of text messages about the coup,
but NOW he might be charged with obstruction of justice.

The J6 committee is not playing 3 dimensional chess, they are just
planning 3 moves ahead and anticipating the responses of their
opponent. Prosecutors do this all the time.

What is frustrating for people is seeing a political party that fails
to prepare for their opponents tricks, and and not using their
excesses against them. I think the J6 committee has thought at least 2
steps ahead. What I can’t know now is if the DOJ and the Democrats
will drop the ball on the 3rd step, which is pushing to prosecute
people for their crimes. The “good” news is that as more people
talk the Democrats can use that against the Insurrectionists, coup
plotters & justice obstructors. And the pressure on the DOJ to
publicly indict continues to mount.

They are predictable. Use their threats against them!

We know how TFG & his people act. They lie. They threaten ANYONE who
challenges them. Politicians with primaries. Witnesses and
whistleblowers with death threats. When someone _does _challenge
them they’ll DESTROY THE ENTIRE BOARD RATHER THAN ACCEPT A
LOSS. (Like how Charlie X melted the chess pieces at the end when he
lost.)

There is a reason that the committee offered anonymity to the person
talking about the calls that Pence’s Secret Service protection
detail made to their loved ones. That person represents the people in
the Multi-Agency Communications Center that has all the comms from
that day heard in real time
[[link removed]],
like the Secret Service radio traffic that we saw coupled with the
VP’s exit from the Capitol. His comment “I don’t like to talk
about it.” had two meanings. 1) It’s disturbing and 2) “If they
find out it’s me, I’m a dead man.”

There are multiple people who heard the Secret Service radio traffic.
They also had access to real time other comms.

I know a lot about computer surveillance & security, corporate &
political butt covering, how our political journalists & experts think
and how the RW media drives RW victim narratives. But I’ll admit
I’m NOT as knowledgeable about how the behind the scenes deal
cutting works to get information. Or how deal cutting works at the DOJ
to reduce penalties for certain crimes.

I’ve found that people often come at a problem from their area of
expertise. I’d like to hear from OTHER kinds of experts too. Someone
who can explain the POLITICAL reasons no one mentions the NSA or
other agencies, “This story is being used to avoid revealing the
truth because a deal is being cut.” Or someone who will say,”The
committee can’t say where they got the texts, it would reveal
sources and methods.” Or “The committee doesn’t want to
acknowledge that multiple friendly agencies and countries like Canada,
Britain and Israel have copies. Also, _unfriendly _countries have
copies too which they can use as blackmail.” That would set off
Trump people screaming about the intelligence community being out to
get them.

For a legal cases the DOJ might have to show they got the information
from a different source than over the air monitoring . They might not
want to mention and that the NSA can break all the encryptions of all
the apps being used. (Remember how the British didn’t want the
Germans to know they had cracked their code.)
(BTW, this process of covering up for the NSA signal intelligences is
something that the NSA did with the DEA after they provided
information about drug dealers. The DEA used the information the NSA
gave them and then went back and find a legitimate source that they
could use in a court of law. )

We need to think in multiple dimensions to understand why certain
things happen, or don’t happen.
We are fighting people who break norms, rules and laws. They are
willing to lie, cheat, steal, threaten to destroy others and our
entire system to win.

If it was ISIS we’d know, but it’s Insiders, Proud Boys & Oath
Keepers

Imagine ISIS had attacked congress on January 6th, attempted to hang
the VP and kill the Speaker of the House. They didn’t succeed. We
would expect our intelligence agencies to have ALL of ISIS’
communications, right? To pull it off ISIS had to have people in the
Capitol Police, the Secret Service, DHS & DoD. Everyone in the country
would expect the NSA to have a copy of ISIS’s communications with
the insiders. One way to find the insiders is to look for who is
covered their tracks.

TO ROOT OUT INSIDERS YOU NEED COOPERATORS AND LEVERAGE. EVIDENCE OF
OBSTRUCTION IS LEVERAGE.

I expect deals are being cut now to get more information. In the
future the committee can reveal the CONTENT of the texts (or texts
themselves) if necessary. The committee’s job is to gather
information and tell the story of what happened. They are doing a good
job. The DOJ’s job will be to prosecute the crimes revealed using
admissible evidence. The committee doesn’t have to.

As we have heard over and over the committee wants to make sure this
doesn’t happen again. Part of that is by changing the laws. But
also, in a world where top lawbreakers are never punished, they have
to expose all the cooperators on the way to the top. We are on the
way. Yesterday Ex-White House counsel Pat Cipollone was subpoenaed by
federal grand jury

I think the J6 committee already knows the contents of the missing
texts from the Secret Service, DHS and now the DoD. Texts of top
Trump officials in the Department of Defense wiped.
[[link removed]] The
“missing texts” investigation is designed to reveal people
involved in the cover up. It’s a setup to implicate Trumpers
embedded in government. And it’s working, it’s already exposed
actions and non-actions taken by Trump appointed Inspector General
Joseph Cuffari. Monday, Reps. Bennie Thompson and Carolyn Maloney said
they also have new evidence the inspector general’s office stopped
trying to recover the missing records over a year ago. Link
[[link removed]]

“But Spocko,” you ask, “if the committee has copies of the
texts, why didn’t they reveal them?” There are a couple of
reasons. Not revealing the content now is giving the committee the
opportunity to get more people in to “refresh their memory” and
cut deals. They have said this explicitly.

The BS reasons given that the texts are missing are BS. However, they
are used to give some people an out if they come forward with more
information. (Remember, the J6 committee wants the information, not
necessarily to prosecute everyone for all their crimes. That’s the
DoJ’s job.)

Put yourself in the shoes of someone who KNOWS what’s in the texts
AND KNOWS that the reasons given they disappeared are BS. The
committee is giving people an _excuse _to come forward now and cut a
deal. They are SAYING the texts were deleted and missing. They are NOT
saying there is no way to ever know what is in those texts. They are
expecting people to come forward and say things like “I deleted the
texts, but _now _I remember who told me to.” Or “I really DID
send most of them in, but I didn’t send in the encrypted ones on my
personal phone. Here they are now.”

Some will keep stonewalling right up until they are presented with
copies of their texts. Then they will start with disputing the
content, “Fake evidence!” or “You have to prove intent!!!” Or,
“I was just following procedure and orders of the head of the
protection detail.” Or “Where is your chain of custody for this
text, it’s inadmissible in court!” Or, when they really get it,
“I plead the 5th.”

I talked to Matt Binder on his podcast Doomed last night. (Link. I
start at 1:46. [[link removed]]) I asked if he
believed the texts were really deleted. He thought they were because
of who was doing this and their technical sophistication. I laughed, I
shouldn’t have, because he’s correct. The Secret Service DOES have
that level of technical sophistication. What I was laughing about was
how often people only look in their area of expertise and don’t
consider others. *I’m guilty of the same bias. I know about
the TECHNICAL reasons it’s hard to delete texts everywhere AND I
pointed out that other agencies, like the NSA, probably have copies.
But then Glenn Kirschner pointed out I didn’t even need to go that
far!

COOPERATING WITNESSES HAVE TESTIFIED UNDER OATH ABOUT THEIR TEXTS

The J6 committee has interviewed over 1,000 witnesses–for over a
year. MOST OF THEM COOPERATED. COOPERATING WITNESSES TURN OVER TEXTS,
FROM THEIR PRIVATE PHONES AND MESSAGES SENT ON ENCRYPTED SERVICES.

Those who don’t take the deal to provide information will be sent to
the DOJ, where they might cut deals to avoid prosecution there.
Some WILL be charged with obstructing justice, others will have the
charges dropped if they cooperate.

Jill-Wine Banks has pointed out that the J6 hearings are a public
education process. Things happen in order for a reason. If the
committee had just revealed the crimes shown in the texts, everyone
would be focusing on that crime. Now we can add OBSTRUCTION OF
JUSTICE to the sedition crimes. Thee public is learning about other
people involved in ordering phones wiped, or the people who decided
not to investigate wiped phones. Nobody knew the name of Tony Ornato
or Inspector General Cuffari until recently. Cuffari might not have
been in ANY planning or received of text messages about the coup,
but NOW he might be charged with obstruction of justice.

The J6 committee is not playing 3 dimensional chess, they are just
planning 3 moves ahead and anticipating the responses of their
opponent. Prosecutors do this all the time.

What is frustrating for people is seeing a political party that fails
to prepare for their opponents tricks, and and not using their
excesses against them. I think the J6 committee has thought at least 2
steps ahead. What I can’t know now is if the DOJ and the Democrats
will drop the ball on the 3rd step, which is pushing to prosecute
people for their crimes. The “good” news is that as more people
talk the Democrats can use that against the Insurrectionists, coup
plotters & justice obstructors. And the pressure on the DOJ to
publicly indict continues to mount.

They are predictable. Use their threats against them!

We know how TFG & his people act. They lie. They threaten ANYONE who
challenges them. Politicians with primaries. Witnesses and
whistleblowers with death threats. When someone _does _challenge
them they’ll DESTROY THE ENTIRE BOARD RATHER THAN ACCEPT A
LOSS. (Like how Charlie X melted the chess pieces at the end when he
lost.)

There is a reason that the committee offered anonymity to the person
talking about the calls that Pence’s Secret Service protection
detail made to their loved ones. That person represents the people in
the Multi-Agency Communications Center that has all the comms from
that day heard in real time
[[link removed]],
like the Secret Service radio traffic that we saw coupled with the
VP’s exit from the Capitol. His comment “I don’t like to talk
about it.” had two meanings. 1) It’s disturbing and 2) “If they
find out it’s me, I’m a dead man.”

There are multiple people who heard the Secret Service radio traffic.
They also had access to real time other comms.

I know a lot about computer surveillance & security, corporate &
political butt covering, how our political journalists & experts think
and how the RW media drives RW victim narratives. But I’ll admit
I’m NOT as knowledgeable about how the behind the scenes deal
cutting works to get information. Or how deal cutting works at the DOJ
to reduce penalties for certain crimes.

I’ve found that people often come at a problem from their area of
expertise. I’d like to hear from OTHER kinds of experts too. Someone
who can explain the POLITICAL reasons no one mentions the NSA or
other agencies, “This story is being used to avoid revealing the
truth because a deal is being cut.” Or someone who will say,”The
committee can’t say where they got the texts, it would reveal
sources and methods.” Or “The committee doesn’t want to
acknowledge that multiple friendly agencies and countries like Canada,
Britain and Israel have copies. Also, _unfriendly _countries have
copies too which they can use as blackmail.” That would set off
Trump people screaming about the intelligence community being out to
get them.

For a legal cases the DOJ might have to show they got the information
from a different source than over the air monitoring . They might not
want to mention and that the NSA can break all the encryptions of all
the apps being used. (Remember how the British didn’t want the
Germans to know they had cracked their code.)
(BTW, this process of covering up for the NSA signal intelligences is
something that the NSA did with the DEA after they provided
information about drug dealers. The DEA used the information the NSA
gave them and then went back and find a legitimate source that they
could use in a court of law.)

We need to think in multiple dimensions to understand why certain
things happen, or don’t happen.  We are fighting people who break
norms, rules and laws. They are willing to lie, cheat, steal, threaten
to destroy others and our entire system to win.

If it was ISIS we’d know, but it’s Insiders, Proud Boys & Oath
Keepers

Imagine ISIS had attacked congress on January 6th, attempted to hang
the VP and kill the Speaker of the House. They didn’t succeed. We
would expect our intelligence agencies to have ALL of ISIS’
communications, right? To pull it off ISIS had to have people in the
Capitol Police, the Secret Service, DHS & DoD. Everyone in the country
would expect the NSA to have a copy of ISIS’s communications with
the insiders. One way to find the insiders is to look for who is
covered their tracks.

TO ROOT OUT INSIDERS YOU NEED COOPERATORS AND LEVERAGE. EVIDENCE OF
OBSTRUCTION IS LEVERAGE.

I expect deals are being cut now to get more information. In the
future the committee can reveal the CONTENT of the texts (or texts
themselves) if necessary. The committee’s job is to gather
information and tell the story of what happened. They are doing a good
job. The DOJ’s job will be to prosecute the crimes revealed using
admissible evidence. The committee doesn’t have to.

As we have heard over and over the committee wants to make sure this
doesn’t happen again. Part of that is by changing the laws. But
also, in a world where top lawbreakers are never punished, they have
to expose all the cooperators on the way to the top. We are on the
way. Yesterday Ex-White House counsel Pat Cipollone was subpoenaed by
federal grand jury.

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* coup
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* U.S. Intelligence agencies
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