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Annika Brockschmidt: America’s Holy Warriors + What a “No Fly Zone” Really Means

Episode 103 uploaded March 20: Sam Goldman interviews Annika Brockschmidt, German freelance journalist and podcast host, author of America’s Holy Warriors: How the Religious Rights Endangers Democracy.

Then, we share a clip of a conversation with Andy Zee and Paul Street, members of the Refuse Fascism editorial board, from The RNL Show, discussing Russia’s war of aggression against Ukraine, and what a US-enforced “no fly zone” actually means. Read Paul’s recent article: Let Us Not Talk Falsely Now: Reflections on War, Peace, and Ukraine.

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Annika Brockschmidt:
Laws have been passed that forbid the mentioning of LGBTQ issues or the existence of LGBTQ people in the classroom, or horrifically denied trans children and teenagers the medical care that is potentially life-saving for them. These laws and these narratives are spreading and they will only grow more and more extreme. The anti-trans hatred is a wedge issue for the religious right, and the arguments applied to discriminate against trans people will and have been used against other groups as well. Fascism is never satisfied. It is built on the premise of battle, of a never-ending fight, and they won't stop until they are stopped. And for that, unfortunately, time's running out.

Sam Goldman: We're expected to see wave after wave of these types of (abortion) bans, including bans on out-of-state travel, bans on contraception, sex education, the abortion pill, throughout this summer. The fascists are aiming for complete subjugation of women through taking away any control over our reproduction -- no abortion, no contraception and no loopholes to getting care. We must aim for nothing short of stopping this attack on abortion rights. They will not stop until they have it all, and all the horrors they will inflict, unless we stop them, which will require confronting that there is no easy way out; no court that will save us, or workaround or loophole we can rely on.

Paul Street: A no-fly zone is a direct military act of war, where the US, and I was gonna say NATO but the NATO really is the US, US-NATO would militarily close off, both through patrolling with jet planes and through antiaircraft, precision guided military hardware would engage Russian planes over Ukrainian land -- potentially, for example, chasing Russian planes, potentially downing or getting downed by Russian planes in Ukrainian airspace, potentially chasing Russian planes into Russia, potentially being chased by Russian planes to enter full-on NATO territory into Poland. You know, as soon as would it would lead to a direct military engagement -- and this is very important -- a no-fly zone means it a very likely direct engagement between US forces and Russian forces. That in turn means World War 3. That in turn means a distinct possibility of escalation to a global nuclear war.

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