New episode: Afghanistan: What Happens Next? (with Karen J. Greenberg, Gayle Tzemach Lemmon, Renee Montagne and Gaisu Yari)

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In this episode, Dr. Goodwin asks what we’ve learned in the two decades since 9/11. Feminists and Afghanistan experts warned of the brutal impact that would likely be felt by women and minorities with the return of the Taliban and in the vacuum of leadership. And they were right.
Already, reports show the armed group being violent and intimidating women protesters, women journalists and ethnic minorities. Just like in the ’90s, live music is banned throughout the country once again, and Afghan women are barred from coeducational opportunities and playing sports. What does this mean for national security? The safety of women and girls? What are the geo-political dynamics yet to be sorted?

Dr. Goodwin and her guests will answer all these questions, and more:

“Meet those young women. Meet those girls. They are the same as the young women in your family and mine. They have been pushing for themselves to go to school, to achieve their potential, to contribute to their families, and with lots of challenges, have made huge progress in a country that is more urbanized, more connected, and more educated by far than it was two decades ago.” —Gayle Tzemach Lemmon, author and adjunct senior fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations.

“The Taliban actually announced two days ago that girls can go to school in universities in a separate room. We don’t have human resources to maintain those rooms and those classes because we don’t have female professors, either in private or public universities.” —Gaisu Yari, writer and human rights activist from Afghanistan.

“The Taliban may or may not have changed but the world has, and the world that they’ve stepped into has changed dramatically.” —Renee Montagne, NPR correspondent and host.

“With the women, actually, the story is real. The story of building these networks and progressing and coming into their own really did happen. So, this is a piece of it that we have to really figure out.” —Karen Joy Greenberg, author and director of the Center on National Security.

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