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Society-wide repudiation of American fascism requires people from every corner of society to speak up and take a stand. Coco Das, Contributing Editor of RefuseFascism.org, interviews Steve Hofstetter on getting loud in the face of fascist threats & noise. Hofstetter is an outspoken progressive comedian who became, unfortuately, the cover story on neo-Nazi publications and received hundreds of death threats after notoriously going off on an anti-Semitic heckler at one of his shows.

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Steve Hofstetter: Comedy and Standing Up Against Fascism

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Steve Hofstetter:  When the emperor has no clothes, you have to point it out. And throughout the world, and throughout history, there have been jesters in a time of horror. That's what this is. Yeah, it's hard to truly satirize something when there's a new dumb thing every day. When one of the things [Trump] said would have been a scandal for six months under any other administration, but instead, it's the very next day to something else in the news cycle, that's even worse. It's exhausting. It's hard to keep up with as a comic. And also you don't want to be unoriginal. So you have to find a truly original take on it.

Coco Das:  One thing that people don’t fully grasp about fascism is how transformative it is. It does seize on existing divisions and prejudices in society, but then it also transforms people into becoming instruments of hate, and genocide. It seems to me like comedy and music, as two areas of the arts and popular culture, are where there is great potential to both reinforce fascist ideas, to reinforce these divisions and these existing oppressive ideas, and at the same time, have great potential to really resist and break away from those and subvert those ideas.

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