Hi John, 

How much should our emotions guide our activism? And how much should we focus purely on the data? This is one of the questions I discussed with Grammy Awards-nominated musician and animal rights activist Moby in my latest episode of “The Green Pill.” 

Moby was a punk who became a breakthrough electronica DJ and producer, helping bring dance music to a mainstream audience. Yet, behind his emotionally-charged music, he is a quiet, introspective, evidence-driven data wonk. In our conversation, we unpack this contradiction, explore Moby's chaotic childhood, and dig into the philosophy of existence to uncover key principles for guiding effective activism.

Listen to my latest episode of “The Green Pill” with musician Moby

Moby and I discuss a wide range of topics: secular monasticism, wealth inequality, cosmology, Alcoholics Anonymous, human separation from the natural world, and what happened when visionary filmmaker David Lynch let Moby borrow his microscope. It turns out a microscope might be just the thing we need to spread respect for all existence by starting with a sense of awe. 

If you’re ready to see things a new way, take the Green Pill with us. Listen to the podcast here.

Wayne

PS: You can see one of Moby’s latest music videos here.