Ben Shapiro has appeared on countless television shows, podcasts and political programs over the course of his career, but there is one booking the conservative commentator says he still can't land: The View.

“Can you get on The View or Good Morning America? Would they book you?” O'Reilly asked.

“No, not in a million years,” Shapiro replied with a laugh. “I've been trying to get on The View for years. That is a dream booking for me.”

Shapiro revealed during an appearance on Bill O'Reilly's We'll Do It LIVE! podcast that he has spent roughly a decade trying to get invited onto the ABC daytime talk show, describing an appearance as his "dream booking."

The subject came up as O'Reilly criticized Disney, ABC's parent company, arguing that the entertainment giant has damaged its reputation among conservatives and independents through a "radical form of presentation." O'Reilly cited both The View and Jimmy Kimmel's late-night program as examples.

Shapiro Says He ‘Hate-Watches’ The View

For Shapiro, the appeal appears to be precisely how much he disagrees with the show's hosts.

The Daily Wire co-founder described himself as a "hate-watching fan" and said he would relish the opportunity to debate Goldberg, Behar and Hostin face-to-face.

“There is nothing I would love better than to have a conversation with Joy Behar and Whoopi Goldberg and Sunny Hostin,” Shapiro said. “I'm a bit of a hate-watching fan of The View, so I would definitely appreciate a booking slot, but that has never been in the offing.”

“Ten years I've been trying to get myself booked on The View, so that's not going to happen,” he added.

Shapiro's claim presents an interesting counterpoint to comments Behar made last year when she said the program wanted to feature more Republicans but suggested conservatives were sometimes "scared" to appear.

Vice President JD Vance did sit down with the women of The View this year, but appearances by major conservative media personalities remain relatively uncommon on the program.

Shapiro, at least according to his telling, certainly isn't staying away out of fear.

O’Reilly Has His Own History With the Show

O'Reilly told Shapiro that his own invitations to The View largely disappeared following Barbara Walters' departure from the program in 2014.

The former Fox News host was once a memorable—and combustible—guest.

During a notorious 2010 appearance, O'Reilly got into a heated confrontation with Goldberg and Behar while discussing plans for an Islamic community center and mosque near Ground Zero in Manhattan.

O'Reilly argued that building the center so close to the site of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks was inappropriate, declaring during the exchange that "Muslims killed us on 9/11."

The comment prompted an angry reaction from Goldberg and Behar, who temporarily walked off the set before eventually returning.

Elliot Page is once again making headlines for comments challenging traditional views of sex and gender, arguing that the male-female dynamic is a "quaint little myth" and suggesting humans should take cues from examples of same-sex behavior and sex-changing animals found in nature.

The Juno and The Odyssey star made the remarks during an appearance on the left-wing program Democracy Now while promoting the documentary Second Nature, which explores sexuality and gender in the animal kingdom.

Page, who announced a transgender identity in 2020 after previously identifying as a lesbian, used the interview to criticize what they described as society's "cis hetero patriarchal structure."

'A Quaint Little Myth'

During the interview, Page argued that conventional understandings of male and female are rooted more in culture than biology.

"In terms of looking at nature as if it's some sort of cis hetero patriarchal structure is absurd," Page said. "And that this, you know, gender binary that we've created is nothing but a quaint little myth."

Page also claimed the documentary demonstrates that many commonly accepted ideas about gender and relationships are fundamentally incorrect.

"It really shows what we have been taught in school in regards to these structures — men being superior, women being inferior... it being this heterosexual existence is just completely false," Page said.

Page insists evidence of same-sex behavior and sex-changing species in nature has been intentionally hidden from public understanding.

The Limits of the Comparison

Page's argument relies on observations that certain animal species exhibit same-sex sexual behavior or undergo natural sex changes throughout their lives.

Clownfish, for example, can naturally change sex under specific biological conditions, while same-sex sexual behavior has been observed across numerous animal populations.

Critics, however, argue that these comparisons do not support the broader conclusions Page draws about human biology.

Unlike species that naturally change sex as part of their reproductive cycle, humans do not undergo such biological transformations. Medical gender transitions rely on hormone treatments and surgical procedures rather than naturally occurring developmental processes.

Critics also note that appealing to animal behavior as a moral standard can be inconsistent. The animal kingdom contains countless behaviors—including infanticide, forced mating, cannibalism, and abandonment of offspring—that few would argue humans should emulate simply because they occur in nature.

Page has become one of Hollywood's most outspoken advocates for transgender activism since publicly announcing a gender transition in 2020.

Page has argued that society should move beyond viewing humanity through the lens of male and female, while critics maintain that biological sex remains an objective reality regardless of evolving cultural attitudes surrounding gender identity.

Casting Controversy

Page recently generated additional controversy after being cast as a Greek warrior in Christopher Nolan's upcoming adaptation of The Odyssey.

Some critics questioned the decision to cast the 5'1" actor in the physically demanding role, arguing it strains credibility given the source material's depiction of ancient Greek warriors. Others defended the casting as consistent with modern Hollywood's willingness to reinterpret classic works.