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Sam Osterhout and Andrew Watkins break down two stories that seem unrelated at first glance — a proposed executive order requiring proof of citizenship for banking, and JD Vance publicly challenging the Pope.
But when you connect the dots, a much larger strategy comes into focus.
From NSPM-7 to Project Esther, this episode explains how these efforts tie together, what they mean for dissent, and why this moment is about more than just politics — it’s about long-term power.
If you want to understand what’s actually happening beneath the headlines, this is the conversation.

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