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Hey folks,
Back by popular demand! I brought my dad, Bill Nellis — retired FBI agent and diehard Republican — back on to talk about Charlie Kirk’s murder. We don’t agree on much, but we dug deep into the political violence shaking this country, and I think it’s one of the most important conversations I’ve ever had on this show.
Here’s what we got into:
[00:01:12] My dad explains why he admires Charlie Kirk — and I push back on what that says about the political moment we’re living through.
[00:04:09] We argue about the immediate partisan spin around the murder and whether the right is weaponizing tragedy for political gain.
[00:07:02] A fierce back-and-forth on mental health, radicalization, and who’s really to blame for the rise in political violence.
[00:17:04] Shockingly, we agree: both parties are failing to keep guns out of the hands of dangerous people — and it’s costing lives.
[00:33:10] My dad’s tough love take on student loans, privilege, and what he really thinks about who deserves to retire with dignity.
This conversation is essential. Not because we agree — we don’t — but because we’re willing to go there. We don’t sugarcoat it. We don’t shy away. And we don’t let each other off the hook.
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With urgency,
—Mike

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