Interviewing My Retired FBI Dad About Epstein, January 6, and Why He Voted for Trump Three Times — with Mike Nellis and Bill Nellis

Hey folks,

I’ve gone head-to-head with Fox News. I’ve clashed with Piers Morgan. Now, I’m going toe-to-toe with my own dad—live from the kitchen where I grew up in Omaha, Nebraska. He’s a retired FBI agent, a three-time Trump voter, and living proof that politics can be personal.

We disagree on just about everything. But this conversation? It’s unfiltered, honest, and maybe exactly what we need more of. Hope you’ll give it a watch this weekend.

Here’s what we got into:

• [00:01:36] We kick things off with the Epstein files: my dad argues against the idea of a secret “list” and explains how redactions work under FOIA law.

• [00:06:34] The Bongino-Patel hype train gets a reality check—my dad goes in on what it means to chase clicks versus doing real investigative work.

• [00:12:01] I challenge my dad on why he thinks Trump isn’t in the Epstein files. We get into what evidence would have led to a prosecution for POTUS.

• [00:25:01] We unpack the shift: how my dad went from saying he’d never vote for Trump again after January 6th to pulling the lever for him anyway.

• [00:33:01] Things get personal—Trump’s legal team name-dropped me in court filings, and we talk about what it would mean if he ever invited me to dinner at the White House.

If you’ve ever had a hard political conversation with someone you love, this one will hit close. These discussions matter. They’re uncomfortable, but they’re essential—and if you want more of them, become a paid subscriber:

With urgency,

—Mike