From Ben Samuels <[email protected]>
Subject Paul Hodes (D-NH): Money, Obamacare, and politicians with a temper
Date June 11, 2025 12:55 PM
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Listen to the latest episode of Former Member [ [link removed] ], where I talk to former members of Congress—Democrats and Republicans—to get their perspectives on what it was like to serve, and how things are different today vs. when they were around.
Earlier this week, I spoke with Paul Hodes [ [link removed] ], a two-term Democratic Congressman from New Hampshire with one of the more fun introductions on Wikipedia: “an American lawyer, musician, and former U.S. representative.”
We talked about money in politics, the 2008 financial crisis, and working for Marianne Williamson in 2020. (It’s safe to say that he didn’t enjoy it.)
He writes “What Does Paul Say” on Substack [ [link removed] ] and is a musician in Paul Hodes and The Blue Buddha Band [ [link removed] ].
Give it a listen! Details below.
Topics from my conversation with Paul Hodes
0:00 – 2:09: Introduction and time in Congress.
2:10 – 14:43: The role of money in politics. (Namely, how members spend most of their time raising money.)
14:44 – 17:20: Voting on a bill you haven’t read yet. (It’s more common than you think [ [link removed] ].)
17:21 – 21:04: Anything that you regret?
21:05 – 28:48: Serving from the 2006 Democratic wave [ [link removed] ] through the 2010 Tea Party wave [ [link removed] ].
28:49 – 35:48: The financial crisis, Obamacare, and their long-lasting impacts on American politics.
35:49 – 47:33: Some (uncensored) thoughts on Marianne Williamson. (Hodes worked for her [ [link removed] ] when she ran for President in 2020 [ [link removed] ].)
47:34 – 52:24: Congressional group chats.
52:25 – 56:55: Serving on the National Council on the Arts [ [link removed] ] under Trump.
56:56 – 57:21: Wrap-up.
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