If that example rings familiar, it’s because I spoke with Rubin on April 27, the same day The Associated Press was back in court for a hearing as it fights its ban from the White House. Julie Pace, AP’s senior vice president and executive editor, took the stage the next day at ISOJ, saying the hearing was “substantive,” but that she had no sense of a timetable for when the judge would rule.
Within weeks of banning AP, the White House then wrested control of the press pool from the White House Correspondents’ Association to itself. WHCA president Eugene Daniels, while on a different panel at ISOJ, said he understood why it may not be intuitive to everyone how this is a big deal. But it is.
“At the end of the day,” Daniels said, “The people being covered should not choose the people that are covering them.”
‘We didn’t struggle enough’
Rubin left Moscow in July 2021, after the Russian government declared him a “foreign agent,” and the news site Proekt, where he’s a deputy editor-in-chief, an “undesirable organization.”
“I live with that we didn’t struggle enough,” he says of the early days of disappearing independent press access to the government.
Rubin said in Russia, they were all waiting for the worst thing to happen before resisting. But, there is no “terrible barrier,” he said. “By the time you realize something is ‘terrible’ you will lose the ability to resist.”
The lesson, he said, is that it’s easier for Americans to fight now, not to wait until the small steps add up. “There’s no reason to wait for something ‘terrible’ to happen.”
He admitted he didn’t know what would happen in the U.S., but that he was hopeful given our long history with freedom of the press enshrined in our Constitution. “I believe in the system,” Rubin said.
Finally, as we were parting, I asked him, given his status, if it was OK to quote directly in this newsletter. Rubin was firm in his response: “If I had wanted to live in fear, I would have stayed in Russia. I didn’t leave to be afraid to talk.”
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