Episode 214 uploaded August 25: Sam Goldman discusses
the joy fest during the DNC and the growing gulf between those who
think you can stop fascism in the US while still enabling a genocide in
Gaza, and those who think that is completely incompatible. Then she
interviews Stephen Eisenman to discuss his forthcoming book with artist
collaborator @suecoeart titled The Young Person’s Illustrated Guide to American Fascism (available in October; preorder now).
Stephen Eisenman: You
have to, as an artist, to use your instruments in a way that will get
people to look they may be shocked, may be disturbed, but rather close
the book, they'll want to flip the page…It isn't possible for a single
artwork to defeat fascism. What it can do is raise questions, help
organize an audience, create solidarity, so that a movement can then be
born that will challenge authoritarianism, fascism, violence, racism and
all those components of fascism.
Sam Goldman: Throughout the convention, the Democratic party went to great pains this week to frame Trump and MAGA as anomalies; Trump as un-serious, weird, narcissistic. Both Harris and Obama spoke about Trump as an agent of chaos, aberrations from some utopia of peace and justice, deranged individuals forcing themselves upon the "greatest democracy in the history of the world." If that was true, then, yeah, all we would have to do is vote for not them. But there are a few problems with that...
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