How do clergy marriages work? Where are the tensions and the graces? Knock, knock – can we come inside your marriage for a peek?

In this episode, host Amber Noel gets really nosy. Here are three couples willing to come on the podcast and talk honestly about their relationships – what makes them tick (or ticks them off), and how they’ve learned to value differences, protect each other, and learn grace in community.

In this episode we’ll hear from:

The Rev. Tish Harrison Warren and the Rev. Dr. Jonathan Warren Pagán. Tish is a priest in the Anglican Church in North America. She is the author of Liturgy of the Ordinary: Sacred Practices in Everyday Life and Prayer in the Night: For Those Who Work, or Watch, or Weep. She’s written for The New York Times and Christianity Today. Jonathan is planter and rector of Immanuel Anglican Church in Austin, Texas. Together they cowrote the book, Advent: The Season of Hope.

The Rev. Dr. Lilian and the Rt. Rev. Given Gaula. Bishop Given has been Bishop of Kondoa, Tanzania, since 2012. Mother Lilian serves in various roles in the diocese of Kondoa, including teaching at the theological college and running a ministry for women’s empowerment.

The Rev. Melissa and the Very Rev. Randy Hollerith. Melissa has 30 years of ordained ministry under her belt, much of it serving schools. For the past two years, she has been the upper school Chaplain and teacher at St. Albans School in Washington. Randy has served as the Dean of Washington National Cathedral since 2016, and was rector of St. James’s Episcopal Church in Richmond, Virginia, for 16 years.

We hope you enjoy the conversation.

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