Former Trump Administration advisor and current talk show host Sebastian Gorka has declared that Project 21 Co-Chairman Horace Cooper will now be a regular guest on his Salem Media podcast because “he’s just that good!”

Horace’s latest appearance came as a direct result of his last appearance, when he told Gorka during show prep that he was “thriving” during the coronavirus crisis.

He attributed his upbeat demeanor to his grandmother, and that’s why Gorka brought Horace back – to explain that to his listeners. But the conversation went far beyond just Horace’s grandmother – with Horace discussing how America really needs his grandmother’s spirit right now. He said that leftists are working hard to impose their agenda at the expense of the American exceptionalism she preached and personified.

In remembering his upbringing in Texas and his visits with his grandmother, Horace noted:

The only sadness that I have is that the value structure I witnessed – that she demonstrated, was pervasive around everyone, and no one was allowed to contradict her – is no longer the dominant mindset that exists.

In explaining how his grandmother instilled exceptionalism in him and the rest of her family, Horace said that she “looked at the circumstances” and made the best of any adversity that lay in her path. That resourcefulness and a spirit of entrepreneurship allowed the family business to thrive in an era of open racial discrimination. In that era, the family survived and thrived, and that family with nine children never saw a time when they were wanting for necessities such as food on the table.

Horace told Gorka that “[m]y grandmother understood that if you applied yourself, if you make the effort, there’s nothing that can hold you back.”

Explaining how she operated and how it applied to the nation as a whole...