I know you aren't surprised, but it has to be said. Joe Rogan is still wrong about COVID and he is still pushing vaccine misinformation.
Want to know what else he said on a recent episode of his podcast?
Joe Rogan is Still Wrong About COVID
Joe Rogan and his guests think it's funny to make fun of people who are fully vaccinated and protected against COVID...
And they think it's funny to push vaccine misinformation that scares people away from getting vaccinated and protected.
Joe Rogan has got jokes, even though nearly 1,200,000 people have died with COVID in the United States alone, including over 1,800 children and teens.
Tragically, that dwarfs the number of deaths worldwide - over 7 million COVID deaths.
COVID Misinformation from Joe Rogan
But instead of admitting that he has been wrong, Joe Rogan continues to push vaccine misinformation. He is one of those folks who seems to want to rewrite COVID history and make people think he has been right all along.
He is gaslighting his listeners when he says things like:
"Joe Rogan: But not only that, then she started talking about how there's real evidence that most of the people that died and that they were called COVID deaths are not from COVID.
Kurt Metzger: Yeah, we knew that a long time ago.
Joe Rogan: But she was talking about it on CNN. They were like, what are you saying. Like you, she goes. I estimate the deaths to be about 30% of what the reported death rate is. "The Joe Rogan Experience #2125
Who is she?
It's Leana Wen...
Now, while Leana Wen did actually say that she believes COVID deaths were overcounted, she did not have any real evidence to back up that claim.
"Wen runs up against a body of research that makes the opposite case."
WaPo Feeds Denial With False Claims About Overcounting Covid Deaths
It's telling that Joe Rogan is now using her as a source...
"How many shots if you're current with your COVID vaccine. How many shots would you have received if you started getting them in, what was it July of 2020?"
Joe Rogan - The Joe Rogan Experience #2125
How many COVID vaccines have you had?
So far, there has been:
- the original primary series (two doses if getting Pfizer vaccines) – Dec 2020
- a booster dose – Sept 2021
- the bivalent booster dose which targeted Omnicron variants – Sept 2022
- an updated 2023-2024 COVID-19 vaccine which targets XBB.1.5 variant – Sept 2023
- a second dose of the updated 2023-2024 COVID-19 vaccine if you are at least 65 years old - February 2024
That means most folks have gotten five doses or maybe six if they are over age 65.
"At this point if you're following the science and... ten shots now... It was eight when I was making fun of this months ago and now it's ten."
Kurt Metzger - The Joe Rogan Experience #2125
While those who are high risk could have gotten a few extra doses, they still wouldn't be up to ten shots and that is only a small minority of high risk people.
Why make it sound like people need extra COVID shots?
It's propaganda to make you think COVID vaccines don't work.
"Well the best one was the one that they released, the bivalent ones where they didn't have any human testing... It turns out it doesn't work at all. Not only does it not work at all, it actually works worse."
Joe Rogan - The Joe Rogan Experience #2125
It is true that the updated bivalent COVID boosters did not undergo new clinical trials in humans because the only change was the strain of the COVID virus. But it is certainly not true that the vaccines didn't work!
The bivalent COVID boosters have been found to be very effective. Remember, these vaccines protected us against the newer Omicron variants.
"Isn't that weird? Isn't it weird that you can just like lie to people and you can force people to take things and then you could hide the side effects and you can't sue them. That seems. I don't want to say it seems corrupt because I that seems like. Yeah, that would be the fuck out of line."
Joe Rogan - The Joe Rogan Experience #2125
Isn't it weird that folks like Joe Rogan can say anything they want, including this kind of misinformation, and they face no consequences?
No consequences for misinformation that has hurt people.
"In fact, far from compromising civil liberties, vaccine mandates actually further civil liberties. They protect the most vulnerable among us, including people with disabilities and fragile immune systems, children too young to be vaccinated and communities of color hit hard by the disease."
Civil Liberties and Vaccine Mandates: Here’s Our Take
While there have been COVID vaccine mandates, that doesn't mean forced vaccination. And no one is hiding real side effects of the COVID vaccines.
More Vaccine Misinformation from Joe Rogan
And of course, there's more...
"Joe Rogan: The connection between vaccines and autism. If you just bring it up, people's hackles will get up and they'll start getting upset.
Kurt Metzger: Don't even talk about it.
Joe Rogan: Yeah, they get very upset at you. And everybody feels complicit because they vaccinate their kids, and everybody feels like they don't want to be attacked by being anti science. And there's that pejorative that gets tossed around that they hit me with so many times during the pandemic. Anti-vax.
Kurt Metzger: You were right, dude.
Joe Rogan: But not only that, it's not technically a vaccine. It was an experimental medication that had never been widespread, distributed to the f*cking world. It had never been done."Joe Rogan - The Joe Rogan Experience #2125
Yeah, Rogan is saying COVID vaccines are an experimental medication and not a vaccine and he doesn't think he is anti-vax?!?
"Donnell Rawlings: Some people died.
Joe Rogan: Not that many.
Donnell Rawlings: In comparison with people that live.
Joe Rogan: Not already sick. It is a disease that killed people for sure, but it's a disease that killed people with what was the percentage? It's like a large percentage of them had four comorbidities. A large percentage of the people that died from COVID. Four. Four different things that are killing you."The Joe Rogan Experience #2126
He's pushing the myth that only people with multiple comorbidities have been dying with COVID. That's not true and it's a myth that was debunked a few years ago.
A lot of people died and continue to die!
Shame on Joe Rogan for minimizing these deaths.
"Joe Rogan: People were excited to get it at the beginning.
Donnell Rawlings: All of it.
Joe Rogan: Yeah.
Donnell Rawlings: I got it. I got it quick too.
Joe Rogan: I almost got it.
Donnell Rawlings: Yeah.
Joe Rogan: Yeah. I got lucky.
Donnell Rawlings: See now you like...
Joe Rogan: Lucky I dodged that.
Donnell Rawlings: Now, now I'm wondering ever since I got it, I'm waiting for some sh*t to happen in my body that I can contribute to that sh*t.
Joe Rogan: Well, a lot of people can. It did something to a lot of people, you know. It's got a very high rate of side effects... I don't think any of them are good for you... The craziest thing going on right now is the increase in all cause mortality. That's the crazy thing.
Donnell Rawlings: Due to the vaccine?
Joe Rogan: Yeah. There's an excess death. There's like an excess death number increase. That's if you, if you were a statistic statistician, you're a statistics person and you're looking at the indications that something went wrong, you would say, well, was there anything that caused these people's bodies to change where we're getting this large number of excess deaths and some people, as many as 40% excess deaths... I think it just means like 40% more people die than normally do, basically. "The Joe Rogan Experience #2126
And shame on him for propagating misinformation about excess deaths from the vaccine.
- No Evidence Excess Deaths Linked to Vaccines, Contrary to Claims Online
- Flawed Analysis of New Zealand Data Doesn’t Show COVID-19 Vaccines Killed Millions
- Fact Check: No evidence to link UK excess deaths to COVID-19 vaccines
- COVID-19 vaccines saved lives, did not cause 17 million deaths
- Excess deaths would be higher without Covid-19 vaccines
- ONS data shows lower death rates in people vaccinated against Covid-19
- Report doesn’t prove COVID-19 vaccines caused excess deaths
- No Surge in Athlete Deaths, Contrary to Widespread Anti-Vaccine Claims
What do actual statisticians think of the increase in all cause mortality?
"Now, a new study led by the School of Public Health and the University of Pennsylvania (UPenn) provides the first concrete data showing that many of these excess deaths were indeed uncounted COVID-19 deaths."
New Analysis Reveals Many Excess Deaths Attributed to Natural Causes Are Actually Uncounted COVID-19 Deaths
Joe Rogan is wrong again. These excess deaths weren't caused by COVID vaccines. They were likely caused by COVID!
Joe Rogan's Violent Rhetoric
And isn't it weird that people like Joe Rogan don't face any consequences when they promote violent rhetoric against those trying to get people vaccinated and protected?
During his March 27 show, Joe Rogan uses the gag in which Charlie Brown is fooled by Lucy with the football as a metaphor for what happens when people get multiple COVID vaccines.
"Joe Rogan: There's no way they would do that to you over and over and over and over and over and over again. And you keep falling for it like f*cking Charlie Brown going for that football with Lucy.
Kurt Metzger: I'm not smart. I'm that Charlie Brown stupid. How do you still take the kick now at this point?
Joe Rogan: God damn it. You tackle Lucy. You take her out."The Joe Rogan Experience #2125
His advice?
You take her out?!?
Now who is Lucy in his little scenario?
If Charlie Brown was the one getting the COVID vaccines over and over and over again, then Lucy has to be the one either telling him to get vaccinated and protected or the one actually giving him the vaccine.
And Joe Rogan is the one telling his listeners to tackle and take health care workers and vaccine advocates out. Violent rhetoric that we have seen way too often these days.
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