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Episode 190 uploaded February 18: Sam Goldman speaks to developments in Trump’s trials, the “pendulum swing” of
political power, Gaza and the 2024 election, and more. Then, she talks
with Jared Holt, Senior Research Analyst with the Institute for Strategic Dialogue.
From Paul Street, last week's Refuse Fascism podcast guest: From “Man Bites Dog” and “Oh My God” to “Dog Bites Man” and “Oh Well” On the Trivialization and Normalization of Fascism and Other Evils
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Jared Holt:
It seems like people hardly talk about the evangelical vote anymore in the mainstream. I think it's just become so ubiquitous with GOP politics, they have been massively successful. A lot of these movements are repeating this model and hoping to achieve a similar success where the assertions of a far right fascist movement on the right becomes clear; that people become desensitized to it and that they're able to actually obtain some real power. Some of this crazier rhetoric could actually turn into policy and actually shape and change the course of the lives of Americans with reverberating effects around the globe.
Sam Goldman:
Look at how much a perceived "arc" supposes the pendulum has moved since the Bush era, from Christian fascists fighting to be the main players under Trump, to even now being in positions of power across the country, including being second in line to the presidency; feeding the judiciary and enshrining theocratic elements, such as bans on abortion. Christian Fascism is the heart and center of the modern GOP, not just propelling them to power but setting the pace and scope of policy; not marginalized, but having deep connections with an often holding the center or a political power.
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