During a CNN interview on Wednesday with host Jake Tapper, Rep. Ayanna Pressley (D-MA) claimed ludicrously that our border with Mexico is secure, even as she acknowledged that waves of migrants are flowing into the U.S.

Tapper noted Republican concerns about the lack of additional border security funding in the upcoming bipartisan Senate bill, pressing Pressley about whether “something needs to be done” about the “crisis at the border.”

“No doubt about it, our border is secure, and we are in the midst of a humanitarian crisis, and we have to fix a broken system,” Pressley said, before being interrupted by Tapper to see if he heard correctly.

“You think the border is secure? Or it is not secure?” he asked.

Pressley repeated that America is “in the midst of a humanitarian crisis” and that federal investment must be secured to support migrant families.

“But just to get some clarity on this, and sure it is a conversation for another day, but do you think that the border is secure? Is that what you said?” Tapper repeated.

“Yes, the border is secure,” she confirmed. “And we’re in the midst of a humanitarian crisis that has been created by a broken system.”

“But if you have millions of undocumented migrants coming into the country, how is the border secure?” Tapper later asked.

Pressley avoided the question by labeling it once again as “a humanitarian crisis,” noting her work representing “one of the most diverse constituencies in the country,” and being the chair of the House Haiti caucus while representing “the third-largest Haitian diaspora.”

“I’m not disagreeing with anything you’re saying, except for the idea that the border is secure. If you have people crossing the border, it’s just by definition not secure,” Tapper persisted. “It just seems like just such a refusal to acknowledge reality to say that the border is secure when we all know millions of people are crossing the border illegally every year.”

Pressley dodged again, arguing the migrant crisis is a “consequence of a number of things” ranging from “climate refugees” to people fleeing “violence and corruption” in their homelands, before claiming that “asylum is a human right.”

“Okay, it sounds like in there you acknowledge that there are millions of people crossing the border illegally, which would mean that the border is not secure,” Tapper said, later asking yet again, “Would you grant me the point that the border is not secure?”

“Jake, that is a conversation for another day,” Pressley deflected. “Right now I’m squarely focused on preventing a government shutdown.”

A conversation for another day? It is demonstrable fact that the border is not secure, but Democrats are so ideologically driven that they simply deny any reality that conflicts with their agenda.